Aaaaaaaaand the gay policemen keep on comin'

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You know I gave Starsky and Hutch a break last time because the main plot was that Starsky was dying - and when one of them is dying, of course the episode is going to be all about how much they love each other. But I just watched the following episode and OMG. Is it just this slashy all the fucking time??

Hutch and Starsky go to a strip club to meet with a suspect's girlfriend. First Starsky is distracted and Hutch is jealous/impatient.



Hee, Hutch is all grabby. I'm standing right here!

And then it reverses. Starsky has to pull Hutch's attention away from zoning on the dancer's hip gyrations, so he blows in his ear. Funny.



They meet Huggy there too, and get into a discussion about the definition of the word, "geek."



HUGGY: This guy Vorhees is supposed to be a real strange bird. Used to be a geek.

HUTCH: (bursts into laughter)

STARSKY: A geek? Really?

HUGGY: (nods)

STARSKY: (turns to Hutch) Do you know what a geek is?

HUTCH: (stops laughing) No.

STARSKY: (rolls eyes)

HUGGY: A geek is a freak in a circus sideshow. They keep 'em in a pit, and they throw snakes and... chicken heads at 'em, and he runs around like crazy and gobbles them up.

HUTCH: (to Starsky) Sounds like your kinda people.

STARSKY: I'll have you know that in 1932 the geeks formed their own union.

[exposition]

HUTCH: Geeks formed their own union? That one you made up.

STARSKY: Well suppose all they paid you in was chicken heads.


OMG this is so INTERESTING. I LOVE etymology, and I had no *idea* this word was such recent slang. Does anyone know if this is true about the sideshow? Any other etymology information, even about a completely different word, is always welcome. ::beams::

ETA! OOoo ooOO !!! But *when* and *how* and where did this change of meaning occur! Inquiring minds - well, at least mind - want to know!


Continuing! Hutch plays bad cop with the evildoers. Very well, too, I must say. His voice gets really deep and, uh, growly...





After Starsky finishes up the nice cop bit, he trails after Hutch to the car.



STARSKY: Hey, do you have any idea how beautiful your eyes become when you are angry?


ME: O.O

The very end of the episode has Starsky having dinner with Hutch and Hutch's health-conscious girlfriend. Starsky keeps complaining about the strange health food, but Hutch explains why he's eating it with such gusto.

STARSKY: Let's face it, Hutch. The two of you are a little strange.

HUTCH: Starsk, Abigail and I are going to be eating for the next 48 hours.

STARSKY: That's what I said.

HUTCH: No, Abigail feels that it's important that we go into this period of fast loaded with nutrition so that we can maintain our normal... physical potential.



STARSKY: Oh, I see. You mean you have to eat this. In order to, uh. (HAND GESTURE)




Abigail brings out the dessert drinks, and Hutch drinks his like a good boy, but Starsky doesn't like the smell.



ABIGAIL: (to Starsky) You aren't having dessert?

STARSKY: Well, uh...

HUTCH: Starsky, (HAND GESTURE)



STARSKY: What, before I go to work?

HUTCH: (raises eyebrows) Can I have yours?

STARSKY: Sure. Just stay where I can keep an eye on you.



Then Hutch does this great double-take. And that ends the episode.



Now where's all the fic about Starsky stuck on stakeout with a Hutch hopped up on sex food? Huh? Huh? Where?

Comments

[http://users.livejournal.com/_unhurt_/]

i like how they manage to be extra slashy in the presence of canon girlfriends-of-the-week. and starsky's jumper is great. (lookit! so cute!)

Now where's all the fic about Starsky stuck on stakeout with a Hutch hopped up on sex food? Huh? Huh? Where?

that needs to exists. NEEDS TO. because they bicker about food so much anyway (something else they have in common with the professionals, come to think of it) . hmm. i think wee sister had a stab at writing s&h but i'm not sure she's prepared to let any of it see the light of day.

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i like how they manage to be extra slashy in the presence of canon girlfriends-of-the-week.
I know, just look at Hutch's face in the last shot. It's like they feel the need to cancel out the straightness. Like there's a conservation of homosexuality throughout the whole series, and they have to keep the level of gayness the same always.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_unhurt_/]

conservation of homosexuality

this needs equations! for SCIENCE!

i'm sure i remember an episode where starsky arrives at hutch's place at breakfast time and his gf-of-the-week is in the kitchen; hutch is in the bathroom getting ready. so of course starsky just walks in in order to fill him in on the case. the girlfriend (who we assume has spent the night) gives the man his shaving/dressing privacy, but starsky? not so much. as i recall hutch doesn't think it's odd either. (please correct me if i'm remembering this wrong, of course.)

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I have seen these two episodes in English and the cult one in German and that's IT. (Though Morgan Logan is sending me pimping discs yay. ::claps::) So all this is new to me, but I look forward to learning more.

Now if you'll excuse me, I think I've contracted a dire case of Paul Gross malaria.

[scriggle.livejournal.com]

Starsky & Hutch are constantly flirting with each other. They do it in front of everyone and no one bats an eye. *g*

Now where's all the fic about Starsky stuck on stakeout with a Hutch hopped up on sex food?

I know there's one by Flamingo with the boys undercover as truck drivers which leads to sex in the cab of the truck. I don't have the link handy but it's on Flamingo's big S&H slash archive.

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Starsky & Hutch are constantly flirting with each other. They do it in front of everyone and no one bats an eye.
Wow, uh, my kind of show!

::goes to slash archive::

OH. Oh wow, old fandoms. Season *eight* of the Slash Virtual Season, huh? ::bookmarks:: Thanks for pointing me over here. I forsee some, uh, reading in my future...

FIREFOX: No, dude. I'm serious. No more tabs. 400 is my limit.

ME: ::blithely opens many S&H fics to read at work::

FIREFOX: God, I feel like Harry Potter's aunt.

[bluebrocade.livejournal.com]

STARSKY: Hey, do you have any idea how beautiful your eyes become when you are angry?

Is that an actual line of dialogue?? O.o

I've never seen this show. Must get the DVDs.

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Is that an actual line of dialogue??

Yes! I know right!

I've never seen it either, but if these two eps are any indication, oh *boy* am I going to.

SH

[kimberlyfdr.livejournal.com]

Starsky and Hutch doesn't have slash subtext, it has TEXT. Before I even knew what slash or fandom or fanfic was, I saw one episode of SH and immediately (in one scene) realized they were sleeping together. The text is really evident. I love that show SO much. And honestly, the ease and banter of these two characters being comfortable with the love that exists between them, it's a direct result of Paul and David. Starsky and Hutch cannot be beat, really. Best show ever.

Re: SH

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OMG ICON. Hee.

Oh are you going the RPS place? I know barely anything about this fandom!

::puts chin on hands and listens to fandom stories::

Re: SH

[kimberlyfdr.livejournal.com]

OMG ICON. Hee.

Those longjohns get Hutch everytime. They get me everytime. One of the few times Paul was wearing underwear underneath and it was a benefit because without them it would have been pornographic (not that his usual jeans aren't).

Oh are you going the RPS place?

Not in that context. What I'm saying is, the bond that Paul and David shared (still share) shows on the screen. I remember one of the interviews with the crew on the SH movie was talking about Paul and David being on the set for the cameo. These guys haven't worked together in 20 years, yet without missing a beat they can ad-lib off one another, they have no personal space with one another, and they don't even have to be looking at each other to know the moves. It's a long-term friendship that has lasted over 30 years together and that love shows on the screen, no matter which screen that is and no matter if it's 1976 or 2004.

::puts chin on hands and listens to fandom stories::

That could take a looooong time. Would you like to email me? kimberlyFDR@yahoo.com I love pimping SH to other fans. It's one of my joys:)

[paranoid-ninja.livejournal.com]

But *when* and *how* and where did this change of meaning occur! Inquiring minds - well, at least mind - want to know!

Maybe this helps?
http://dictionary.oed.com/cgi/entry/00316762?query_type=word&queryword=geek&first=1&max_to_show=10&sort_type=alpha&result_place=1&search_id=i0xo-I2lWKG-8331&hilite=00316762

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Wah, I can't SEE IT! I'm not a subscriber like you free-ride college kids anymore! Can you paste the entry?

[paranoid-ninja.livejournal.com]

[Origin uncertain; perh. orig. a variant of GECK n.1
The following prob. shows a transmission error for gecke (see GECK n.1) rather than the present word:
a1616 SHAKESPEARE Cymb. (1623) V. v. 161 To taint his Nobler hart & braine, with needlesse ielousy, And to become the geeke and scorne o'th'others vilany.]

I. Simple uses.

1. slang (chiefly U.S.). a. orig. Eng. regional (north.). A person, a fellow, esp. one who is regarded as foolish, offensive, worthless, etc.

1876 F. K. ROBINSON Gloss. Words Whitby, Gawk, Geek, Gowk or Gowky, a fool; a person uncultivated; a dupe. 1908 H. C. FISHER in San Francisco Examiner 28 Apr. 13 (comic strip) A geek who spends his spare time making Czar removers was slammed into the city cooler. 1916 Wells Fargo Messenger Oct. 29/2 A new Wells agent struck our town the other week, and sayyou never saw a more enthusiastic geek! 1951 N. ALGREN Chicago (2001) v. 59 The jungle hiders come softly forth: geeks and gargoyles, old blown winos, sour stewbums and grinning ginsoaks. 1971 H. S. THOMPSON Let. 1 June in Fear & Loathing in Amer. (2000) 393 The Aspen zip code is 81611. These hamwit geeks go crazy when they get something addressed to two different postal areas. 1986 C. MATHESON & E. SOLOMON Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure (film script) 86 Freud. (to the girls) Hi, I'm Sigmund Freud. The girls giggle some more. Freud. (stroking his goatee) You both seem to be suffering from a mild form of hysteria. Girl #1. (to Freud) You geek. 2001 C. GLAZEBROOK Madolescents 173 The Elbow's heaving with bimboids and geeks who work in banks and stuff.

b. Freq. depreciative. An overly diligent, unsociable student; any unsociable person obsessively devoted to a particular pursuit (usually specified in a preceding attrib. noun). Cf. NERD n.

1957 J. KEROUAC Let. 1 Oct. in Sel. Lett. 1957-69 (1999) 66 Unbelievable number of events almost impossible to remember, including..Brooklyn College wanted me to lecture to eager students and big geek questions to answer. 1980 E. A. FOLB Runnin' down some Lines 239 Geek, studious person. 1991 S. J. GOULD Bully for Brontosaurus vi. 96 Any kid with a passionate interest in science was a wonk, a square, a dweeb, a doofus, or a geek. 1992 Sports Illustr. 14 Dec. 38/1 The article is a nine-page compilation of photos, diagrams and written arcana, which only a football geek could love. 2001 Heat 17 Nov. 83/1 The acerbic Enid starts hanging out with the middle-aged record-collecting geek Seymour.

c. spec. A person who is extremely devoted to and knowledgeable about computers or related technology.
In this sense, esp. when as a self-designation, not necessarily depreciative.

1984 Bye in net.jokes (Usenet newsgroup) 20 Feb., I was a lonely young computer geek With a program due 'most every week. 1989 C. STOLL Cuckoo's Egg xlvi. 242 Why are you trying to catch some poor computer geek who's just fooling around? 1993 R. RUCKER et al. Mondo 2000 122/1 Geek is the proud, insider term for nerd. If you are not a dedicated techie, don't use this word. 2001 Independent 4 June II. 9/1 We're the nerds, the geeks, the dweebs: the men and women who can spend 20 hours straight contemplating 600 bytes of obscure, arcane, impenetrable computer code.

2. U.S. slang. A performer at a carnival or circus whose show consists of bizarre or grotesque acts, such as biting the head off a live animal.

1919 Billboard (Cincinnati) 25 Oct. 74/4 (advt.) At LibertySnake charmer or geek man; would like to join show going south. 1935 Amer. Mercury June 229 Geek, a degenerate who bites off the heads of chickens in a gory cannibal show. 1948 N.Y. Times Bk. Rev. 7 Mar. 25 An amiable alcoholic who keeps a real live chicken-eating geek in his garden. 1961 Times Lit. Suppl. 27 Jan. 62/2 He..enslaves a ‘geek’, a dumb sideshow stooge whose daily routine consists of being exhibited in a pit which he has to dig for himself. 1975 R. DAVIES World of Wonders (1977) I. viii. 130, I was compelled to exhibit Willard as a geek... You lecture for a while on the yearning of the geek for raw flesh. 2001 H. BONE (title) Side show: My life with geeks, freaks & vagabonds in the carny trade.